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		<title>By: danny gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi i lived and worked in melbourne in 1975 [i know centuries ago]/ lived in the st kilda area then moved to ormond. anyway being a bricklayer i loved to have a drink. i drank in the bell at the village area and the greyhound on the brighton rd being glasgow/irish i soon fell in line with my aussie mates and many a good drink was had by one and all. never saw any violence to talk about except for the odd punch up but that heppens any city worldwide lived in sydney the year before but liked melbourne better. hard work and a good drink should go hand in hand, any person after having a drink who wants to be really agressive shouid go to the nearest cop shop where they can act the big man. life&#039;s too short enjoy it before you get too old[just like me] but i never was in prison. cheers my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi i lived and worked in melbourne in 1975 [i know centuries ago]/ lived in the st kilda area then moved to ormond. anyway being a bricklayer i loved to have a drink. i drank in the bell at the village area and the greyhound on the brighton rd being glasgow/irish i soon fell in line with my aussie mates and many a good drink was had by one and all. never saw any violence to talk about except for the odd punch up but that heppens any city worldwide lived in sydney the year before but liked melbourne better. hard work and a good drink should go hand in hand, any person after having a drink who wants to be really agressive shouid go to the nearest cop shop where they can act the big man. life&#8217;s too short enjoy it before you get too old[just like me] but i never was in prison. cheers my friends.
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		<title>By: ridwanzero</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello...I don’t know that I would say that Australia has a violent culture any more than America or England. You say you turn on the tv and see violence, but most of those shows are American. Sport is violent no matter where you go, AFL is probably one of my the more tame sports and the penalties for engaging in fighting (both on and off the field) are huge

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello&#8230;I don’t know that I would say that Australia has a violent culture any more than America or England. You say you turn on the tv and see violence, but most of those shows are American. Sport is violent no matter where you go, AFL is probably one of my the more tame sports and the penalties for engaging in fighting (both on and off the field) are huge</p>
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,26051421-2862,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s an article&lt;/a&gt; about the types of drinks on offer out there...they call them &quot;booze bombs&quot;.

One of the drinks you can get at a restaurant is an oversized marguerita with...wait for it...THIRTEEN shots of alcohol in it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,26051421-2862,00.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s an article</a> about the types of drinks on offer out there&#8230;they call them &#8220;booze bombs&#8221;.</p>
<p>One of the drinks you can get at a restaurant is an oversized marguerita with&#8230;wait for it&#8230;THIRTEEN shots of alcohol in it!
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		<title>By: Carlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I can attest to having lived in Australia (Melbourne) for the past (almost) two years is that there is definitely more &quot;bloke-ism&quot; here than in NA, as Chris so eloquently put it below &quot;men&#039;s men&quot;. This becomes dangerous in stand-off situations where neither party will back off for fear of being seen as a pussy and this is what will quickly escalate a situation.

But you are right in that violence on TV and in sport (hello? ice hockey?), is the same here as it is anywhere else. I think the question is how it combines with other factors that might be unique in Australia that leads to the problems, such as the availability of booze (eg the number of licensed establishments, the opening hours) and how it&#039;s being targeted to younger and younger people. I remember reading an article in the paper about some alcohol issue (can&#039;t recall what it was exactly) but then there was an ad right beside it for a sale on booze. Mixed messages.

I completely hear what you&#039;re saying about media sensationalism - I dislike it myself and am always skeptical of the mainstream media. I&#039;ve also used it as arguments in other discussions (if you don&#039;t believe me, see my comments in the piece on Abroad &quot;Should People of Color go to Russia?&quot;). At the same time though, it really does help to bring the issue to the forefront and really put pressure on the officials to actually do something about it, because it is an issue.

And I think it if it does affect tourism then that will put even more pressure on the gov&#039;t to tackle the problem (because it really is a problem when it&#039;s as regular an occurrence as it is here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I can attest to having lived in Australia (Melbourne) for the past (almost) two years is that there is definitely more &#8220;bloke-ism&#8221; here than in NA, as Chris so eloquently put it below &#8220;men&#8217;s men&#8221;. This becomes dangerous in stand-off situations where neither party will back off for fear of being seen as a pussy and this is what will quickly escalate a situation.</p>
<p>But you are right in that violence on TV and in sport (hello? ice hockey?), is the same here as it is anywhere else. I think the question is how it combines with other factors that might be unique in Australia that leads to the problems, such as the availability of booze (eg the number of licensed establishments, the opening hours) and how it&#8217;s being targeted to younger and younger people. I remember reading an article in the paper about some alcohol issue (can&#8217;t recall what it was exactly) but then there was an ad right beside it for a sale on booze. Mixed messages.</p>
<p>I completely hear what you&#8217;re saying about media sensationalism &#8211; I dislike it myself and am always skeptical of the mainstream media. I&#8217;ve also used it as arguments in other discussions (if you don&#8217;t believe me, see my comments in the piece on Abroad &#8220;Should People of Color go to Russia?&#8221;). At the same time though, it really does help to bring the issue to the forefront and really put pressure on the officials to actually do something about it, because it is an issue.</p>
<p>And I think it if it does affect tourism then that will put even more pressure on the gov&#8217;t to tackle the problem (because it really is a problem when it&#8217;s as regular an occurrence as it is here).
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		<title>By: chris tharp</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 05:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  When I was in New Zealand a year and a half ago, I heard reports of the same thing happening in Christchurch: groups of young men randomly beating people late at night.

Fucking hell.

While there is plenty of violence in American, much of it is gang-related, a sort of internecine warfare.  We don&#039;t see as much random attacks as happen in the UK, NZ, and Oz....  at least I was never aware.  There is a real culture of booze violence in these places.  I definitely felt it in NZ - a certain tension in some of the pubs, the feeling that I needed to watch what I said and watch my back.  I&#039;ve felt it in the UK as well.  Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;m a Yank and my accent automatically attracts attention, but I generally feel much safer drinking at a bar in America than one in the UK or New Zealand (and though I&#039;ve never been, I&#039;ll add Australia as well...).

Australia is such a masculine country, in image at least.  Aussie men pride themselves in being &quot;men&#039;s men&quot; - drinking fucking and fighting - so it&#039;s no surprise that they&#039;re running into problems.  The amount of Aussie men I&#039;ve met abroad who are homophobic and openly racist astounds me, and I know some real redneck motherfuckers back in the U.S. of A.  No offense, but i think y&#039;all got us beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  When I was in New Zealand a year and a half ago, I heard reports of the same thing happening in Christchurch: groups of young men randomly beating people late at night.</p>
<p>Fucking hell.</p>
<p>While there is plenty of violence in American, much of it is gang-related, a sort of internecine warfare.  We don&#8217;t see as much random attacks as happen in the UK, NZ, and Oz&#8230;.  at least I was never aware.  There is a real culture of booze violence in these places.  I definitely felt it in NZ &#8211; a certain tension in some of the pubs, the feeling that I needed to watch what I said and watch my back.  I&#8217;ve felt it in the UK as well.  Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m a Yank and my accent automatically attracts attention, but I generally feel much safer drinking at a bar in America than one in the UK or New Zealand (and though I&#8217;ve never been, I&#8217;ll add Australia as well&#8230;).</p>
<p>Australia is such a masculine country, in image at least.  Aussie men pride themselves in being &#8220;men&#8217;s men&#8221; &#8211; drinking fucking and fighting &#8211; so it&#8217;s no surprise that they&#8217;re running into problems.  The amount of Aussie men I&#8217;ve met abroad who are homophobic and openly racist astounds me, and I know some real redneck motherfuckers back in the U.S. of A.  No offense, but i think y&#8217;all got us beat.
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that I would say that Australia has a violent culture any more than America or England. You say you turn on the tv and see violence, but most of those shows are American. Sport is violent no matter where you go, AFL is probably one of my the more tame sports and the penalties for engaging in fighting (both on and off the field) are huge. Unfortunately I think one of the big problems lies with the print media who go out of their way to print every single act of violence in Melbourne to the point where one would be convinced that we do indeed live in a violent city. In fact Australia falls behind the US, UK, New Zealand and Canada in terms of assault rates per capita. This constant hyping and sensationalising leads to a reinforcement of violence being the norm in Australia, and especially associated with masculine figures in the media such as footballers and rugby league players. The media should realise that just because they are saying that what a person has done is wrong doesn&#039;t mean that they are not reinforcing the masculine norm. I don&#039;t deny that violence is a problem and that it should be given it&#039;s appropriate place in the media spotlight, I just worry about what all this moral panic is doing for our tourism industry when everyone seems to think that you can&#039;t walk down a Melbourne street without being stabbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that I would say that Australia has a violent culture any more than America or England. You say you turn on the tv and see violence, but most of those shows are American. Sport is violent no matter where you go, AFL is probably one of my the more tame sports and the penalties for engaging in fighting (both on and off the field) are huge. Unfortunately I think one of the big problems lies with the print media who go out of their way to print every single act of violence in Melbourne to the point where one would be convinced that we do indeed live in a violent city. In fact Australia falls behind the US, UK, New Zealand and Canada in terms of assault rates per capita. This constant hyping and sensationalising leads to a reinforcement of violence being the norm in Australia, and especially associated with masculine figures in the media such as footballers and rugby league players. The media should realise that just because they are saying that what a person has done is wrong doesn&#8217;t mean that they are not reinforcing the masculine norm. I don&#8217;t deny that violence is a problem and that it should be given it&#8217;s appropriate place in the media spotlight, I just worry about what all this moral panic is doing for our tourism industry when everyone seems to think that you can&#8217;t walk down a Melbourne street without being stabbed.
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		<title>By: Carlo Alcos</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why it seems to be isolated to Melbourne. I do hear about random violence in Sydney or Brisbane too but not nearly on this level. Could also be that I&#039;m here so obviously this is much closer to home. But I know that Melbourne&#039;s problem is also reported around the country so it is especially bad here. Will be interesting to see how this is tackled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why it seems to be isolated to Melbourne. I do hear about random violence in Sydney or Brisbane too but not nearly on this level. Could also be that I&#8217;m here so obviously this is much closer to home. But I know that Melbourne&#8217;s problem is also reported around the country so it is especially bad here. Will be interesting to see how this is tackled.
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		<title>By: Carlo Alcos</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Tim. Most of the violence does occur in the wee hours of the morning. However, I have seen the odd fight well before midnight.

To clarify, Melbourne is a very safe city. I&#039;ve never personally felt threatened, but then again, I&#039;m not much into the late-night life anymore. If you&#039;re going to party like it&#039;s 1999 just be extra careful, keep your wits about you, and don&#039;t stir yourself up any trouble. The worst part of it is sometimes they are random attacks, just a bunch of thugs out to hurt people, which would be hard to avoid if in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Just remember, &lt;a href=&quot;http://matadortrips.com/were-not-invincible/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;we&#039;re not invincible&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Tim. Most of the violence does occur in the wee hours of the morning. However, I have seen the odd fight well before midnight.</p>
<p>To clarify, Melbourne is a very safe city. I&#8217;ve never personally felt threatened, but then again, I&#8217;m not much into the late-night life anymore. If you&#8217;re going to party like it&#8217;s 1999 just be extra careful, keep your wits about you, and don&#8217;t stir yourself up any trouble. The worst part of it is sometimes they are random attacks, just a bunch of thugs out to hurt people, which would be hard to avoid if in the wrong place at the wrong time.</p>
<p>Just remember, <a href="http://matadortrips.com/were-not-invincible/" rel="nofollow">we&#8217;re not invincible</a>.
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting...I agree I don&#039;t think alcohol is the problem, but rather just something that eggs on an existing issue. Alcohol has always been a big part of the Australian culture (and Irish culture, German...the list goes on). And I&#039;ve certainly heard and seen at least the macho, if not violent, mentality of some Aussie men.

My question is, why is this amount of intense violence seem to be happening just in Melbourne? It doesn&#039;t seem like Sydney or other cities throughout AU are having quite as much of an issue.

Funny, when I was in Melbourne, I thought it was a pretty chill city, while Sydney was go go go. But I wasn&#039;t out at 3 in the morning, so that might have had something to do with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;I agree I don&#8217;t think alcohol is the problem, but rather just something that eggs on an existing issue. Alcohol has always been a big part of the Australian culture (and Irish culture, German&#8230;the list goes on). And I&#8217;ve certainly heard and seen at least the macho, if not violent, mentality of some Aussie men.</p>
<p>My question is, why is this amount of intense violence seem to be happening just in Melbourne? It doesn&#8217;t seem like Sydney or other cities throughout AU are having quite as much of an issue.</p>
<p>Funny, when I was in Melbourne, I thought it was a pretty chill city, while Sydney was go go go. But I wasn&#8217;t out at 3 in the morning, so that might have had something to do with it&#8230;
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		<title>By: Tim Richards</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, it&#039;s going way too far to say &quot;It just isn’t safe to walk the streets of the CBD (Central Business District) late at night anymore.&quot;

I live in the centre of the CBD and witness a vibrant shopping and dining district during the day and well into the night. Almost every time there&#039;s a report of violence in the CBD, you&#039;ll find the words &quot;at 3am&quot; somewhere in the report.

So you could say &quot;It&#039;s LESS safe to walk the streets of the CBD (Central Business District) VERY late at night.&quot; But don&#039;t make it sound like it&#039;s a free for all once the sun sets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, it&#8217;s going way too far to say &#8220;It just isn’t safe to walk the streets of the CBD (Central Business District) late at night anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>I live in the centre of the CBD and witness a vibrant shopping and dining district during the day and well into the night. Almost every time there&#8217;s a report of violence in the CBD, you&#8217;ll find the words &#8220;at 3am&#8221; somewhere in the report.</p>
<p>So you could say &#8220;It&#8217;s LESS safe to walk the streets of the CBD (Central Business District) VERY late at night.&#8221; But don&#8217;t make it sound like it&#8217;s a free for all once the sun sets.
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